2009年6月29日

最近欲しいもの

ニーダーが欲しいな~と思っている今日この頃。

というのも、HBの捏ねコースではベーグルのような硬い生地は捏ねられないので、もっとパワーの強いニーダーが欲しいなと思っているからだ。

ただ調べるといろんな機種がありすぎて、選択に迷ってしまう。

有名どころの「Cuisinart フードプロセッサー」

お洒落なイメージの「KitchenAid ミキサー」

または、日本製の「Many Many Make メランジュールロボ」

結局は300g以上の粉量で、ベーグルのような硬い生地も捏ねられるニーダーが欲しいわけだ。
メーカーのサイトを見ても、容量がリットルで書いてあるので、何グラムまで大丈夫なのかイマイチよくわからない。

安い買い物じゃないので、もう少しリサーチが必要そうだ(^^;)

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そういえば、私もニーダーのつもりで購入したHBが動かなくなって
悲しかった記憶があります。

近所の奥さんがお安く分けてくれたものだから、使い物にならない時点で
ネットオークションに出品して、売っちゃいました(笑)。

家に置いてても場所取るだけって言われちゃったからね(汗)
その後はコネコネは手でやってます。しかしここんとこ離れてるなぁ…。

パネトーネが入手しにくくドライイーストしか手に入らないもので
なかなか制作意欲が湧きません(言い訳!?)

クイジナートなんて、結構その方面では有名だし(フープロなんかでね)
イイのではないのかなって思ってしまいますが…。

とにかくニーダー買って量産してネットショップやっちゃってください(おぃ!

mixi のパンコミュなどでリサーチしたときの情報ですが…
有名どころの Cuisinart は、パン捏ねにはパワー不足だそうです。
ソフト系ならなんとかなるものの、ハード系のパンは難しいんだとか。

メランジュールはお菓子作りには良いらしいですが
パンとなると、キメが粗くて、パン作り初心者以外の方は
不満が残る仕上がりだそうです。

私は「レディースミキサー (ニーダー。 型番は200だったかな?)」を
友人にプレゼントしてもらいましたが
大きくて場所をとり、重量も結構あったので、使用頻度が少なく、
結局オークションに出して手放しました。

パワーも重要ですが、「台所に置くスペース」と「気軽に出し入れできるものか否か」
という想定も大事だと思いました。


パン捏ねで割りと定評のあるのは 「ボッシュ」 みたいですが…
あの外観がいまいち好みじゃないです (ぇ

日本製で、パワー&コンパクトを重視した新機種のニーダーとしては
http://kneader.jp/ の PK601 が良さそうです。

体験会やイベントもやっているので、参加してみたーいと思いつつ
お菓子作りに偏っている現状では必要ないよね~…と、
なまぬるくサイトチェックだけしてますw

おやぢさんのコメントへの返信

やっぱり生地をこねるっていう目的でHBってのは
無理があるんだろうなぁ。あたしゃ、ベーグル作りを
するようになってつくづく感じたよ。
これ、無理だわ・・・って(;-_-)
パワーが全然足りないんだよね~。
食パンみたいに柔らかいべとべとの生地には
適してるだろうけど、ちょっと硬くなると途端にね。
PMなかなか手に入らないの?cuocaさんで買うって言っても
送料とか考えるとまとめて買いたいから、それだけ
買うのはためらっちゃうよなぁ。うん。
そうそう、クイジナートはフープロでめちゃくちゃ
有名だよね~。でもHBと同じで桶は桶屋というか
フープロじゃない目的で買うのはやっぱりどうなんだろうと
考えちゃうのだ。

kuuさんのコメントへの返信

kuuちゃんってば素晴らしい情報網!!
ビバmixiってとこ?(笑)
ふむふむ、クイジはパワー不足ときたか・・・
いや~、外国製だからかなりのパワーなのかな~と
思ってただけにショック!
ということは、やっぱりあれは”フープロ”なんだね(^^;)

メランジュールもコメントを見る限りパワーが
足りなくてきめが粗い生地になっちゃうんだな。
デザインは良いけどパワーはいまいちか・・・
そう、お菓子作りには良さそうだね(^^)

レディースミキサーっておもちも捏ねられる
機械じゃなかったっけ?すご~~く大きいんだよね!!
確か生地を入れる部分とモーターとか入ってそうな
部分が左右にわかれてて長方形のでかいヤツだったような・・・
確かにありゃ台所のどこにも入らないよ(;-_-)

ボッシュってメーカーは初めて聞いたよ!
調べてみたけどフックみたいな棒で捏ねるんだねぇ。
動画を見た感じとても良さそうに捏ねてたな~
アタッチメントを買えるとお菓子作りにも活躍するんだね!
あの外観か~あたしはそんなに嫌いじゃないかも?
ってか、女の人が持ち上げてキッチンの上の棚に
入れようとしてる画像があったんだけど、結構コンパクト!
それに2.7kgしかないらしいよ!

それとリンクのページのニーダーも初めて!!
kuuちゃんほんっとすごいよ!!
こりゃかなりコンパクトそうね。
さらに発酵もガス抜きもやってくれるんだ~。
パン専用って感じだね。
ただこっちは6kgもあるのか^_^;そしてお値段はボッシュに
比べて14000円ほど高いと・・・・

kuuちゃんのコメントを読んで、今のところボッシュか
日本ニーダーのどっちかにしようって決まったよ。
使い勝手の良さと評判のいいボッシュにするか、
パン専用で高機能そうだけどちょっと使い勝手が
悪そうな日本ニーダーにするか・・・
迷う~~~~~(笑)

ボッシュ方はね、自宅近くのハンズに実機があるらしいの。
今度寄った時に見てみるね!

レディースニーダーは、「おもち」 と 「うどん」 もOKでした。
(作ったことないですけど。苦笑)

日本ニーダーの方も 「そば」 「うどん」 「パスタ」 が作れるようです。
(レシピはHPからDL…という形になっているみたい)

ボッシュは確かに軽いのが魅力ですね。
台所の棚の上に収納…などだったら、適していますね。
でも、あのフックでベーグルが捏ねられるのかな~?
実演販売(?)見学レポ楽しみにしておりますw

kuuさんのコメントへの返信

そそ、昔うちの母も同じような大きな餅つき機械を持ってたの。
似てるからすごいパワーなんだろうなと(笑)
日本ニーダーのも大丈夫なのかぁ・・・
おそばは作ったことないけど、うどんとパスタは経験あるんだ。
すげ~~~~~~~~硬いの。生地が。
だってうどんなんて足で踏みつけたもん。
それが捏ねられるって尋常じゃないパワーだよな~。

ボッシュのフックね。すごく特殊な形してるよね!
実はあれがいいかな~と思ったんだよ。
何故かって、HBも日本ニーダーのも一番下に羽がついてるじゃん?
あれだと硬い生地の場合、捏ねるというより「転がる」っていうだけの
動きになるじゃん?だから捏ねられてないんじゃないかな~と思って。

それならボッシュのサイトの動画みたいに、フックに引っ掛かって
上下左右にグイグイいくんじゃないかなと思ったのだ。

まぁこればっかりは使ってみないとわからんな(笑)
ナスボー入ったし、お父さんの個展が無事終わったら、ゲットしてみるか!!

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